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After 24-Jun-20 12:00 AM
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Jota 24-Jun-20 12:03 AM
I think it's because Steam is/was down, isn't it?
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:03 AM
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Jota 24-Jun-20 12:06 AM
Ok, then you have to talk with Moonly. I don't know how SB work exactly so I don't wanna mess up with permissions. I just apply bans there from time to time and that's it.
"from time to time" Between 1 day to a year.
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:07 AM
afaik only discord permissions were removed from staff which i dont care about because i'm not rejoining the public discord
ever
idk
@Moonly Days ^
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:09 AM
I didn't touch sb
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:09 AM
did you touch like
server staff perms
tf2* server staff perms
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:10 AM
I didn't touch anything. But I guess Jonathan did that since my message in #announcements
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:11 AM
@JonathanTF ?
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:12 AM
Besically to prevent abusing admin privileges.
Afaik(edited)
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:13 AM
what... changed?
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:13 AM
staff members no longer have perms by default
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:14 AM
why on servers tho lol
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:14 AM
Because admin "fun" commands exist in sourcemod
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Jota 24-Jun-20 12:15 AM
I have to agree that Staff shouldn't have permission on Discord by default but they should have on servers.(edited)
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:15 AM
like taking ptero / sb / z flag away on servers just makes it fucking annoying to actually develop anything lol
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:16 AM
Can agree
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:16 AM
i dont think anyones done anything actually abusive on the tf2 servers other than like
maybe togue noclipping a couple times and random staff here and there turning off alltalk
oh and one time i timebombed myself
like
.......,
turning on alltalk
my b
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:17 AM
Iirc, Jonathan said you were slap spamming him, is it true?
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:17 AM
i think i slayed jon after he killed me and taunted once
idr
never done that to another player tho lol
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:17 AM
Don't do that please
On any player
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:17 AM
Mk
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Moonly Days 24-Jun-20 12:18 AM
If you are on pub just don't touch any commands unless you really need it
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:18 AM
thats how ive done it
i only gag ppl or silence them if theyre being like actual brain dmgd idiots
most of the time they get kicked by someone else anyway
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JonathanTF 24-Jun-20 12:20 AM
tl;dr there are dev servers
and i'm going to bed as work tomororw
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:20 AM
jon if you have an issue with me please just dm me instead of all the passive agressive stuff that ive noticed
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JonathanTF 24-Jun-20 12:21 AM
I've made my issue known with you
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 12:21 AM
not in any way that i know about
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JonathanTF 24-Jun-20 12:24 AM
Going to bed now. You're not a mod, please stop trying to be, I've made it fairly clear that I'm not happy with your view of banning people that say words you deem to be "offensive"
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:17 AM
Going to bed now. You're not a mod, please stop trying to be, I've made it fairly clear that I'm not happy with your view of banning people that say words you deem to be "offensive"
This is the type of shit that needs to stop(edited)
Talking down to Stephanie because you're in a "higher" position
We should be censoring shit especially if it's shit like transgender slurs and shit.
I sat by when Jota was dropping attitude on others over decisions and now history seems to be repeating itself only with Jon
I'm not sitting by this time
This stupid childish shit is sad
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:20 AM
what i dont understand is like- i have ssh access, why would u take away ptero access now
nothing has realistically changed
i'm not going to like. Ban everyone all of the sudden
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Jota 24-Jun-20 01:20 AM
I sat by when Jota was dropping attitude on others over decisions...
What? I literally don't understand that sentence.
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:21 AM
Jota and Boba had issues
Jota would talk down to Boba and I'd hear all about it
I'm tired of the talking down to people on the team
We're all on the same team ffs
Also @Moonly Days if you don't want people using sm_slay then override the fucking command with the z flag in admin_overrides so that people can't use it.
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Jota 24-Jun-20 01:22 AM
I was not the only one to had issues with him, many people had. I just happen to be the only one to talk my sincere thoughts. If I have a problem with someone here, I'll definitely talk, I won't hide that fact.(edited)
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:22 AM
I do see that he was overreacting about hiring other artists
But that type of talk towards other team members is a big no no
And is what leads to cracks in the team and people leaving the team only to put out a big exposé doc(edited)
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Jota 24-Jun-20 01:23 AM
I'm not gonna stay quiet if I'm unhappy with something here, I've said that before.
If you are not happy with that, I'm sorry.
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:24 AM
Cool. You can voice your opinion, thats fine and dandy
Just don't talk shit to the person in the process(edited)
Otherwise we're gonna have Boba exposé #2 from the 2nd former dev team member (whomever that ends up being if someone does leave)(edited)
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:25 AM
i mean i'm already pretty close to leaving
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:25 AM
And I certainly see why with how you've been spoken to steph
It's very reminiscent of how Boba was treated (in spite of their issues)
Frankly we need to get our shit together and start doing things correctly. Like the aforementioned slay command thing. Override commands you don't want being used. Don't just leave them accessible and tell folks not to use them, that's just gonna lead to people using them
Slur filter, get that shit in place
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:27 AM
i dont want to leave but - literally all server privs removed with little explanation - hostility at even the slightest suggestion of community moderation - going behind everyones back to kneecap a plugin meant to aid at least a little bit in community moderation - constant shitty attitudes by ppl who are supposed to be my teammates
like
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:27 AM
For Jon maybe don't commit to master directly to disable something another team member made because you think it's unnecessary
Get fucking consensus first
This is day one working on a team shit
Server perms were removed because a lot of us shouldn't have been discord mod in the public discord
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:28 AM
that is a different thing
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:28 AM
I agree with that as I had kinda volunteered myself
Oh you mean ingame
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
i dont want mod in discord and i made a grave mistake even attempting to get it because i knew i would fuck it up
ive been there done that
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
Yeah idk why some of us kept game mod and some didnt
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Jota 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
@404UNF I'm not happy at all that you brought that old situation back to illustrate a current topic. I really thought we were supposed to forget that past drama and shit, but you literally didn't help on this one at all, extremely disappointed. Please, do better in the future.
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
i mean also i was literally sexually harassed by people in the discord but like
ignoring that
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
I got game mod because I'm a programmer
Frankly steph is too
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
so am i
i cant even see the anticheat prints right now
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
So why doesn't steph have game mod
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
Like
Bruh.
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:29 AM
@Moonly Days give steph game mod, she's a programmer
And she can't see her own Anticheat prints
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stephanie 24-Jun-20 01:30 AM
at the LEAST just give server devs perms back
i mean if you dont want like weapon balancers and artists having mod... sure? i guess? whatever? i still think they should be able to gag and mute people at the least
but if i cant fucking do sm_cvar sv_maxusrcmdprocessticks 24 to see if i'm lagging because it was originally set to 12
...
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 01:31 AM
I'm going for a drive to calm down a bit before I get too heated about this mistreatment of a team member and end up saying something I'll regret about some people
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Jota 24-Jun-20 01:31 AM
I really hope you didn't ignore my message.
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 02:22 AM
What message
Oh the one where you tell me to do better lmao
You do better
I'm not the one causing issues and having people dm other people on the team about me ๐Ÿคจ
If anyone is extremely disappointed, it's me in both you and Jonathan because this isn't the first time that ego has caused friction in the team with you two
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Jota 24-Jun-20 02:29 AM
...What? What did I even do this time? I wasn't even involved, I'm not involved with servers at all.
I'm literally 100% building the event and the launcher with Rob
Please, be polite and do a serious talk instead of being sassy. You are not helping talking in this manner.
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 02:30 AM
I am doing a serious talk
Who do you think Boba was talking to about the shit going on in here as it went down? Me.
I seem to be the go to when people have issues with the attitude and ego of other members in here because I'm not afraid to stand up and say what the fuck
We're a team. Start acting like it. Especially Jonathan with the "idgaf" attitude towards steph
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Jota 24-Jun-20 02:31 AM
You are literally still pulling up something that happened almost 4 months ago to try and justify the stuff going on right now. Please, take a sleep and, by tomorrow morning, think of what you just wrote.
This stuff was over months ago, stop overreacting.
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 02:38 AM
Look at what's going on with steph and Jon and tell me that I'm overreacting because from where I'm standing it looks like Boba 2.0 in the making if shit doesn't change.
Steph is on the border of leaving because of this shit and frankly I might be too
All this "sweep it under the rug" shit
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Jota 24-Jun-20 02:40 AM
I don't know where you live in Canada but please go to sleep and lets talk tomorrow. You're clearly not in a good state to have a nice convo right now.
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 02:41 AM
You can quit talking to me like I'm boba
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Jota 24-Jun-20 02:42 AM
You're really not helping with this bro, seriously. I'm not being an asshole at all, I'm just talking what I think it's best for you. You're clearly hot headed, we've been through this before, and you admitted that.
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404UNF 24-Jun-20 02:48 AM
we've been through this before
Correct and we're back here again because people didn't learn from last time. We're bordering on losing a 2nd team member over the attitudes of people who think they are above others on the team because they have control over things like the servers or the git. Believe me, even if I go to bed now, I'll wake up tomorrow and be right back on Jon's ass over this nonsense.
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stephanie 25-Jun-20 11:53 PM
mk moonly when you wake up
something is fucky with the firewall on eu
half of ppl cant connect
it's not anything on the server itself as far as i can tell(edited)
tried allowing everything thru iptables
tried allowing everything thru ufw
nada
some ppl just cant connect
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Robert (rob5300) 26-Jun-20 12:00 AM
yeah its the client port range stuff, soo probably a firewall issue
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stephanie 26-Jun-20 12:07 AM
is it only thru the panel
it cant be
let me try
cuz it should be as simple as just
allow 20000 thru 30000
udp/tcp
yeah didnt work
probably a panel thing(edited)
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Robert (rob5300) 26-Jun-20 12:16 AM
i bet it is yea
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stephanie 26-Jun-20 12:18 AM
added this to crontab
remove all old logs and stv demos
older than 1 week
rebooted gameserver to install new lowlat kernel
also i installed and defaulted zsh on both backend and gameserver and installed ohmyzsh on top of it
because its just better than bash
megabastard
heres hoping the eu gs didnt just have a kernel panic
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stephanie 26-Jun-20 12:51 AM
Oh also moonly if you know of an option to start servers on boot
enable it
because i cant find it in ptero panel
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stephanie 26-Jun-20 02:25 AM
going to set up fail2ban on backend (tomorrow)(edited)
in leu of a (external) firewall(edited)
also am going to set up a ufw (on server) firewall done, vaguely(edited)
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stephanie 26-Jun-20 02:33 AM
going to also set the EU servers to restart at 6 am like they used to
^ nm will do that when i can get autostart on boot working properly
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stephanie 26-Jun-20 06:16 AM
current firewall
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twiikuu 26-Jun-20 09:38 AM
SSH port should be switched to something else so that you get less random chinese bots trying to get in, not that much of a security concern if you disabled password auth (which you should have), just prevents useless processing
Not sure why you're exposing DNS
And MySQL should definitely not be exposed to public
allowing the game server IPs one by one could work as long as you got SSL enforced
otherwise wireguard would be a good fit and possibly easier
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